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Post by 35005CP Thu Jun 25, 2009 9:47 pm

Hi all,

Does anyone know what the progress is with this loco? It seems to have been a long time with the overhaul since she last run... I can't find any progress on her on the website. This is the latest I can find? So it appears as though she is close to running? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keighley_and_Worth_Valley_Railway#Steam_locomotives

It states that the boiler cladding is now on and the boiler is being tackled? Strange, you would think that the boiler would be tackled first before putting all of the cladding on???

If anyone has any photos recently - It would be great to see. Brings back some good memories of this loco from when I was a youngster! Fond memories seeing it with my dad. Smile

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Post by 35012 Tue Apr 20, 2010 3:09 am

If you scroll down the index page of the KWVR website you will find a picture of the newly completed but unpainted tender for 34092. Work on the loco is now concentrating on the boiler and the fitting of the flue tubes.

http://www.kwvr.co.uk/index.htm

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Post by 35005CP Tue Apr 20, 2010 3:22 am

Excellent - Thanks for the feedback. So going very well then. Better than expected. Could be a possibility of returning to steam next year, especially now they are close to having done the cladding?
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Post by 35005CP Wed Jun 16, 2010 6:36 am

Does anybody have any news on 34092 with current progress or expectation to steam?
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Post by 35005CP Mon Jul 05, 2010 10:00 pm

It looks as though 34092 is nearing completion; http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/5053472.Tender_nearer_to_reunion_with_loco/
But when exactly I don't know. Although in the article it states another 2 years. I wonder if the reason she is taking some time is because of the extensive repairs needed to be done to get her fit for mainline duties once again?

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Post by 35012 Tue Jul 20, 2010 9:31 am

35005CP wrote:It looks as though 34092 is nearing completion; http://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/5053472.Tender_nearer_to_reunion_with_loco/
But when exactly I don't know. Although in the article it states another 2 years. I wonder if the reason she is taking some time is because of the extensive repairs needed to be done to get her fit for mainline duties once again?

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According to the guy's at the K&WVR the loco will not be going mainline.

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Post by 35005CP Wed Jul 21, 2010 6:01 am

That is very sad news... I wonder if she is going to be fitted with the Giesel Ejector again? This is one reason why I think she should return to mainline use. If for anything to get the money back for the extensive overhaul.
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Post by 35012 Wed Jul 21, 2010 7:25 am

The overhaul has been a complete nightmare for the group as if you remeber they had the loco's axleboxes stolen and then later flood dammage!

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Post by 34070 Manston Tue Oct 19, 2010 11:15 pm

35005CP wrote:That is very sad news... I wonder if she is going to be fitted with the Giesel Ejector again? This is one reason why I think she should return to mainline use. If for anything to get the money back for the extensive overhaul.
35012 wrote:The overhaul has been a complete nightmare for the group as if you remeber they had the loco's axleboxes stolen and then later flood dammage!

If "City of Smells" is unlikely to go mainline, and the group in question are cash-strapped due to the above problems, perhaps they could come to an arrangement with "Braunton"'s owners to use the Giesl ejector. Just a thought.

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Post by 35012 Tue Oct 19, 2010 11:45 pm

I agree, it would certainly be intersting to have a rebuilt with a Giesl ejector.

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Post by 34070 Manston Wed Oct 20, 2010 12:04 am

35012 wrote:I agree, it would certainly be intersting to have a rebuilt with a Giesl ejector.
And with "Braunton" going "mainline", the cost of the Giesl ejector would pay for itself very quickly both in terms of performance, and possibly more important, less coal would be used! Wink

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Post by 34028 Wed Oct 20, 2010 6:10 am

by 35012 Today at 1:45 pm

.I agree, it would certainly be intersting to have a rebuilt with a Giesl ejector..

I've often wondered how a rebuilt would perform with a Geisel ejector fitted.

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Post by 35005CP Wed Oct 20, 2010 7:01 am

From memory I vaguely remember a 9F being fitted with a Giesel Ejector (92250 I believe). I believe this is what kicked off the the testing on other locos. I also believe there were plans a-foot to fit 50 of the Bulleids with the Giesel Ejector - But money wouldn't allow. Also merchant Vavy's were in the pipeline for being tested upon - But never happened.
With regards to 34092, this I believe was done when she was at the KWVR? i don't remember reading or seeing any pictures of her with it fitted prior to Preservation?
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Post by 34070 Manston Fri Oct 22, 2010 2:14 am

I'll have a rummage around when I get home, after visiting the pub for some Stress Management Therapy drunken drunken , and see if I still have the copy of The Railway Magazine that has the article in it. Very Happy

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Post by dikkidee Wed Oct 27, 2010 8:28 am

34064 Fighter Command was fitted with a Geisel ejector from 1962 - it was highly successful but was never carried forward because of the impending demise of steam.

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Post by 34070 Manston Thu Oct 28, 2010 9:40 pm

dikkidee wrote:34064 Fighter Command was fitted with a Geisel ejector from 1962 - it was highly successful.....
..... and consequently performed more like a "MN" ( 8P ) that a "BoB" ( 7P ).

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Post by 34070 Manston Thu Oct 28, 2010 11:15 pm

Welcome on board, "dikkidee"1

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Post by dikkidee Fri Oct 29, 2010 7:03 am

Thanks......

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Post by 35012 Wed Mar 16, 2011 12:57 am

Page 20 of the current edition of Railway Herald (No 259) has a picture of 34092 in Hawarth yard outside the shed. The loco is seen with around three quarters of the air smoothed casing now in place. The tender complete with new tank can just be made out behind the loco.

You can download or view Railway Herald 259 here:

http://www.railwayherald.co.uk/magazine/

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Post by 35005CP Tue Apr 19, 2011 10:28 pm

Does anyone know if the loco is scheduled to be steamed this year or not? Also, i think that a WC running on only a 5 mile line is a bit of a waste? Doesn't anyone else think so?
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Post by 7wheel Sat Oct 01, 2011 10:51 pm

It would be a terrible shame, in my opinion, to have a Giesl-fitted WC restored but unable to run mainline. The danger, of course, is of suffering the same fate as Fighter Command, which bent everything in a high-speed slip (presumably because it had the power to do so?).

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Post by 35005CP Mon Mar 05, 2012 7:50 pm

'The Volcano re-awakens' An update on the KWVR website showing 34092 with a fire lit for the first time in over 20 years!! The link is here;
They are saying that she is still a long way from completion? She looks pretty much complete to me? Does anyone know what is left to do?
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Post by 35005CP Tue May 29, 2012 9:38 pm

Having bought the latest copy of Steam Magazine yesterday. The latest news is that City of Wells should be completed within the next 12 months and for the first year shall be runing on the KWVR to get back some of the costs and to pay for TPWS, OTMR and Air-Braking. The intention is for the Volcano to be run on the mainline eventually.
Also she will have to get back her speedometer that is currently fitted to 34067.
Good news. Lets hope to see her doing some storming runs down the South!! :-)
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Post by 35005CP Wed Oct 30, 2013 6:46 am

34092 is now looking substantially complete. She has been re-fitted with the Giesel Ejector. Apparently Christmas is as soon as she will return??
All pipework is pretty much complete in the cab. so good news. Now can we have her on the mainline please? Very Happy 
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Post by 35005CP Tue Feb 11, 2014 5:21 am

From the KWVR Facebook page. Does anyone know what is to be done since she had her Steam test?

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