35005 - Canadian Pacific

Hi all,

Apparently this fab loco is due to go in for overhaul (Being the MHR 'Flagship loco') next year. She will apparently need a new firebox from what I understand? And is apparently going in either next year or early 2011?

I've heard great things about this loco from the 60's.. What was her best run?

Best Wishes

Andy

Not likely to be overhauled for some while certainly not until after 76017 and 34105 have been completed. Firebox not too bad but does require a new front tubeplate which the railway already has in stock.

I sincerely hope she gets done after 34105!

She is the Flagship off the line afterall!! I don't think she will go mainline again though? And such a shame.... A fantastic loco that I have had the pleasure of firing so many times!! And I have emptied her whole tender!!!

But glad to hear the Midhants railway has a new front tubeplate in readiness for her overhaul!!

35005's tender is now in the main shed at Ropley being overhauled / prepaired to run with 34007. The tender on loan from 34039 is due to return to the G.C.R. for overhaul and also unfortunately now leaks like a sieve.

What is happening with 34007's new tender and wheelset sitting down at Alresford that was sent from the Bodmin & Wenford later on after the loco left?

I believe that 35005's tender is being used to to keep 34007 running. 34007's will be attended to once they have a full set of parts for it. As you know they are now having the correct B.F.B. wheels cast then there is the small matter of the new tyres, axles and axleboxes to sort out before the frames can be fully erected. The frames themselves I believe were not far off completion (less wheels, brakes and plumbing etc) when they left the W.S.R.

I have heard and seen alot of speculation that 35005 is to be overhauled/stored at Eastleigh? Does anybody have any concrete evidence to suggest either way please?
Also rumours are afoot that she might be 8 years before being overhauled?

The loco was due to go off site for display / storage at a new museum which is now way behind schedule hence the change of plan. Eastleigh is an option to store the loco but will require a tender if it goes ahead. I believe other options are being investigated but restoration is ccertainly not planned in the immediate future.

Lack of funds and workshop capacity are the reasons why we unfortunately haven't started overhauling 35005 yet. Funds have gone into 45379, 75079 and 925.

We will be doing something soon to protect "CP" from the elements. Watch www.watercressline.co.uk during the next couple of months.

The loco is owned by the Mid Hants Railway Preservation Society. If the MHRPS were to launch an appeal towards a 10 year Overhaul, would members of this forum be interested in contributing?

Hi Smiffy,

I for one am in the 105 clan to help towards the overhaul. I am sure our moderator on here is discussing things right now. The plan is also to try and get her mainline.

Oh and its great to have you onboard!!

35005 was shunted out of the Ropley headshunt today and coupled to the tender 34007 was using.
Things are happening!

Wasn't 35005's old tender now being used on on 34007? And i thought 34007's old tender was on loan from Boscastle? So i would have thought that the tender that came from the Bodmin and Wenford could have possibly been built and made for 35005?

It seems as though 35005 'Canadian Pacific' is on her way to Eastleigh this Wednesday the 10/08/2011;
Here are the times etc....
Wednesday 10 August 2011

Diesel (+ 35005 'Canpac' between Alton & Eastleigh) + couple coaches for brake force.

5Z76 SOUTHLDMU 08:45 ALTON 13:29 STP WO 100811
5Z77 ALTON 14:21 ELEIGHRC 17:35 STP WO 100811
5Z78 ELEIGHRC 19:45 SOUTHLDMU 22:00 STP WO 100811
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Train 735Z761 runs WO from 10/08/11 to 10/08/11 - Auto-Call
Train category EE Loco-Hauled 65 miles Applicable Timetable Service
Train service code 22244008 Catering N/A
Uid U52904 Sector 50 Sub-sector 01 Set up by TSDB on 03/08/11 Type STP

Location Booked C Pw Miles Tlod Ctg Pfm Eng Pth Consist
73664 SOUTHLDMU 08:45 ORIGINATING PT
73663 SOUTHALL 08:55 09:04 0 1 CALLING POINT
73665 STHALLEJN PASS 09:05 2 PASSING POINT
73255 W EALING PASS 09:09 2 3 PASSING POINT
73251 ACTONWEST PASS 09:13 2 PASSING POINT
73240 ACTON ML 09:17 09:22 0 5 CALLING POINT
72251 ACTONWLSJ PASS 09:25 2 PASSING POINT
72225 WILSDN SW 09:27 10:26 0 CALLING POINT
72268 WILSDNWLJ PASS 10:28 2 PASSING POINT
72251 ACTONWLSJ PASS 11:15 2 2 7 PASSING POINT
72257 STHACTONJ PASS 11:27 2 PASSING POINT
72254 KEWEASTJN PASS 11:29 2 PASSING POINT
87144 BRENTFORD PASS 11:32 2 19 PASSING POINT
87141 HOUNSLOW PASS 11:38 2 22 PASSING POINT
87122 FELTHAMJN PASS 11:40 2 PASSING POINT
87121 FELTHAM PASS 11:42 2 24 1 PASSING POINT
87114 STAINES PASS 11:49 2 29 2 PASSING POINT
87106 VIRGINIAW PASS 11:58 2 33 2 PASSING POINT
86010 ADDLSTNJN PASS 12:07 2 PASSING POINT
86022 BYFLEETNH PASS 12:09 2 39 1 PASSING POINT
86031 WOKING PASS 12:15 2 43 PASSING POINT
86040 WOKING JN PASS 12:16 2 3 PASSING POINT
87043 PIRBGHTJN PASS 12:24 2 1 PASSING POINT
87041 ASH VALE PASS 12:29 2 51 PASSING POINT
87037 ALDSHTNJN PASS 12:30 2 4 PASSING POINT
87031 ALDERSHOT PASS 12:36 2 53 PASSING POINT
87026 FARNHAM PASS 12:40 2 56 PASSING POINT
87017 FNHAMFN30 12:42 13:05 0 CALLING POINT
87024 BENTLEY 13:11 13:22 0 60 CALLING POINT
87021 ALTON 13:29 65 TERMINATING PT
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Train 875Z771 runs WO from 10/08/11 to 10/08/11 - Auto-Call
Train category EE Loco-Hauled 79 miles Applicable Timetable Service
Train service code 22244008 Catering N/A
Uid U52905 Sector 50 Sub-sector 01 Set up by TSDB on 03/08/11 Type STP

Location Booked C Pw Miles Tlod Ctg Pfm Eng Pth Consist
87021 ALTON 14:21 ORIGINATING PT
87024 BENTLEY 14:29 14:36 0 5 CALLING POINT
87026 FARNHAM PASS 14:43 2 9 1 PASSING POINT
87031 ALDERSHOT PASS 14:53 2 12 PASSING POINT
87037 ALDSHTNJN PASS 14:56 2 3 PASSING POINT
87013 ALDSHTSJN PASS 15:02 2 PASSING POINT
87014 ASH PASS 15:04 2 15 2 PASSING POINT
87052 GUILDFORD PASS 15:15 2 21 PASSING POINT
87080 SHALFRDJN PASS 15:18 2 PASSING POINT
87055 FARNCOMBE PASS 15:21 2 24 4 PASSING POINT
87062 HASLEMERE PASS 15:36 2 34 2 PASSING POINT
87066 PETERSFLD PASS 15:51 2 45 PASSING POINT
86341 HAVANT PASS 16:05 2 57 1 PASSING POINT
86334 FLINGTONJ PASS 16:11 2 5 PASSING POINT
86302 COSHAM JN PASS 16:19 2 PASSING POINT
86301 COSHAM PASS 16:21 2 61 3 PASSING POINT
86241 FAREHAM PASS 16:32 2 67 PASSING POINT
86243 FAREHAMNJ 16:33 16:47 0 1 CALLING POINT
86202 BOTLEY PASS 16:55 2 72 1 PASSING POINT
86097 EASTLGHSJ PASS 17:03 2 PASSING POINT
86087 EASTLEIGH PASS 17:05 2 78 PASSING POINT
86090 EASTLGHYD 17:08 17:28 0 78 CALLING POINT
86087 EASTLEIGH PASS 17:31 2 79 PASSING POINT
86092 ELEIGHRC 17:35 79 TERMINATING PT
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Train 865Z781 runs WO from 10/08/11 to 10/08/11 - Auto-Call
Train category EE Loco-Hauled 69 miles Applicable Timetable Service
Train service code 22244008 Catering N/A
Uid U52906 Sector 50 Sub-sector 01 Set up by TSDB on 04/08/11 Type STP

Location Booked C Pw Miles Tlod Ctg Pfm Eng Pth Consist
86092 ELEIGHRC 19:45 ORIGINATING PT
86087 EASTLEIGH 19:49 19:54 0 CALLING POINT
86084 SHAWFORD PASS 19:59 2 4 1 PASSING POINT
86083 WINCHESTR PASS 20:04 2 7 PASSING POINT
86080 WALLERSAL 20:11 20:38 0 CALLING POINT
86069 WORTINGJN PASS 20:48 2 2 PASSING POINT
86066 BASINSTOK PASS 20:53 2 26 1 PASSING POINT
86061 BRAMLEY PASS 21:00 2 31 2 PASSING POINT
74265 SOUTHCOTJ PASS 21:11 2 2 PASSING POINT
74237 READNG PASS 21:15 2 41 PASSING POINT
74023 TWYFORD PASS 21:20 2 46 PASSING POINT
74005 MAIDENHED PASS 21:27 2 53 PASSING POINT
73822 SLOUGH PASS 21:33 2 59 2 PASSING POINT
73775 AIRPORTJN PASS 21:42 2 PASSING POINT
73667 STHALLWJN PASS 21:45 2 PASSING POINT
73663 SOUTHALL PASS 21:46 2 68 PASSING POINT
73664 SOUTHLDMU 22:00 69 TERMINATING PT

35005 is on the move this week...


http://www.watercressline.co.uk/News/Loco/View/674

When will the restoration begin and how long is it expected to take?

Good that she's finally going under cover. I hope it won't be too long before restoration is started.

A pal of mine lives in Eastleigh so I'll see if he can get some pics of her arrival.

Martin

Is this move still going ahead tomorrow. The Information has partially dissapeared off the website....
Here was the Info; Alton at 14:20pm and will arrive at Eastleigh at 17:35 via Guildford; Havant & Botley.
There isn't anything on uksteam.info on LE movements to say this is going ahead still with times?

Yes she is still moving tomorrow.

http://www.watercressline.co.uk/News/Loco/View/683

There are now pictures of 35005 Canadian Pacific in store inside Eastleigh Works on the Watercressline Web site.

I would say that most; if not all of the loco could be salvaged once she is overhauled? The pipes look in very good condition. Obviously the wheels and internal motion and boiler & Firebox will need some work. But great to see she made it to Eastleigh without any problems. I would imagine she needs a new ash pan after the last time I was on her on the footplate and seeing the dent that is still there. Most definately my favourite loco of all time!! I'm going to miss seeing the ole girl in steam. Is there a date of CP returning to steam? Or will she be after Cheltenham?

Latest news in the Railway herald states that an appeal has been launched for 35005's Boiler to be done by Crewe as funds permit. Initial Investigation has shown that the chassis is in good condition. News on page 26/27 here;

Hi all,
The MHRPS have posted an update on the website to help return Canadian Pacific to steam. I am sure many of you will share in my thoughts that this loco is one of the finest around. If you can donate in any way please can you follow the link here; http://www.watercressline.co.uk/News/Latest/View/824

Subject to the agreement of Arlington Fleet Services, we are hoping to start the overhaul of 35005 "Canadian Pacific" inside Eastleigh Works early in 2013.

We will be seeking to recruit some more volunteers. These will strengthen our Eastleigh team, created for the overhaul of the NRM Schools class loco "Cheltenham" which was completed in May this year.

Please watch our website watercressline.co.uk for an announcement which will contain information on how to get involved.

Chris Smith
Society Traction Trustee
Mid Hants Railway Preservation Society

Oh how I wish that I could help with my favourite loco....

Does anyone know if the 100k needed is just for boiler work only, or is this for mechanical overhaul as well?